Legendary investor Raoul Pal: What will the future world of AI+Crypto look like?

Raoul predicts that 2025-2026 will be a key period for the explosion of AI+Crypto, emphasizing the importance of holding core encryption assets in the long term. The article is sourced from Ashley's compilation of Thread Guy's interview, organized and translated by BlockBeats. (Background: NVIDIA engineer launches AIToken$TMC Be Played for Suckers, NVIDIA's golden signboard turned into a bloody hunt) Thread Guy and Real Vision co-founder Raoul Pal delve deep into AI, Cryptocurrency, and future trends. Raoul predicts that 2025-2026 will be a crucial period for the explosion of AI+Crypto, stressing the importance of long-term holding of core encryption assets. He shares the vision of the 'Economic Singularity' era, depicting how AI-driven infinite labor and knowledge will disrupt economic models, while also warning of the risks in AI Token speculation. Original Interview: Thread Guy; Guests: Raoul Pal, co-founder and CEO of Real Vision Group; Frank DeGods, co-founder of DeLabs; Original Compilation: Ashley, BlockBeats The following is the original content (edited for readability): 2025 follow: Technical rise and investment strategies Thread Guy: Hello everyone! I'm Thread Guy. Today, we have a special interview and debate with legendary investor Raoul Pal. We will cover AI, Cryptocurrency, and most importantly - how to become wealthy in 2025! I can tell you, this debate is full of fireworks. Around halfway through, I'll bring in a special guest. Stay tuned until the end, I guarantee it's worth it. Don't forget to like and subscribe, hope you enjoy this episode. Welcome, Mr. Raoul! We have many topics to discuss today, including AI-related content, everything will be covered. I'm curious, from a macro perspective, what do you think will be the most followed in 2025? Raoul Pal: Actually, it's the same old story. Despite having many businesses, they are all the same thing. This is an era of exponential rise in technology, macroeconomic views, Cryptocurrency, and their intersection. In the next few years, we will enter the craziest phase in human history. And the way to make money from it is through Cryptocurrency. So I'm super focused on that now. Whether it's through Real Vision to educate people, build a community, share trading ideas, and create various values, or through Exponential Age (my asset management company), which is a hedge fund focused on encryption and investment vehicles, or through Global Macro Investor, which is an 'OG' service. My goal is the same: to help people as much as possible to find direction on this journey. I think 2025 will be a big year, and I want to make sure everyone doesn't mess it up. Thread Guy: I love your backdrop, where are you? Raoul Pal: This is my home in Little Cayman, between Grand Cayman and Little Cayman. This is my home. Thread Guy: I thought it was a bar, that's so cool. Raoul, how big do you think the AI bubble will be? Raoul Pal: Honestly, what we are seeing now is just the beginning. I don't think this cycle will truly become very large. We can discuss the reasons, I don't think the hot concept of AI is the main trend now. The real big things will happen in 2025 and 2026, and people don't know how to invest in it yet. In the eyes of traditional investors in the stock market, this will completely change every industry, dividing people into those who embrace it and those who reject it. I feel that the bubble and the next Bull Market (2027 to 2030, 2031) will exceed our understanding of the bubble. My general view is that we are about to enter a phase I call the 'Economic Singularity,' which is around 2030 or 2032, we don't know what the economy will look like, what jobs we will do, what business models are, or even what the value of money is. All this will become reality before 2030. So my view is, we basically have five more years. I used to say six years, but now we have five more years to make as much money as possible, because our understanding of the world will change completely, and we will be clueless. This doesn't mean we can't make money, it means the way to make money will be completely different. Thread Guy: How do you know? Raoul Pal: I'm super focused on this. Thread Guy: How do you know that hoarding wealth in the next five years is the right choice when you're not even sure if that wealth will still be valuable in 2030? Raoul Pal: It's simple because the adoption rate of Cryptocurrency will only continue to rise. Hoarding cash may not be the right choice, but hoarding Cryptocurrency is. We all know it's very Fluctuation, it takes some courage to hold onto it. But if your time is long enough, it's no problem. So even in the world of AI, Cryptocurrency is important. We all know that future AI agents will use Cryptocurrency payment systems. So my view is, you better hold these assets. If you only hold BTC, it's much simpler, you don't have to consider anything else. With other Cryptocurrencies, you need to allocate and think about whether they will survive, whether people will build on them, and so on. This is more complicated, but if you can figure this out, you will make more money. So from the simplest opportunity perspective, if you do nothing but hold BTC, in a few years, your financial situation will be much better than it is now. Thread Guy: You have a notorious clip, whether it's the end of 2022 or 2023, saying you should hold AltCoin in a Bull Market and Stable Coin in a Bear Market. You never hold BTC. This is a clip that may have been taken out of context. But my question is, for those who are making a lot of money in Cryptocurrency for the first time, what should they convert profits into during this cycle? Cash? BTC? Or something else, like weapons and ammunition? What to do? Raoul Pal: My profit conversion is to enter 'lifestyle chips.' That's why I have this house. This is the end of my hedge fund era. When I founded Global Macro Investor, I made money, bought this land, and then built from scratch. I designed it myself, drew it on paper, and then built it. So no one can take it from me. That's what I call 'lifestyle chips.' It improves my life. It's right on the beach, here is Little Cayman, it's great. So some of the profits should be used to change your life, and then switch strategies according to the situation. In fact, I didn't withdraw...